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  1. Dave Day

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    All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    it has looked like this for 20 plus years.

    any thoughts ?

    Thanks Dave #2587

    ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.

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  2. Tom Kubler

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    Dave,

    Doubtless you already know, but this is a really, Really bad time of year to sell a big ticket item. While slime-green is more accepted than it has been for a while greens have historicly been on the week end of the market. I'd almost not waste the hastle of painting the car and let the new owner select his own preference, perhaps even offer a "paint allowance" like they do in home sales-- i.e. sell the car for $xxx,xxx and pay up to $yy,yyy to have the car painted where and by whom the new owner selects...

    Dave Day <dday (AT) slac (DOT) stanford.edu> wrote:
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    All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    it has looked like this for 20 plus years.

    any thoughts ?

    Thanks Dave #2587

    ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.

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  3. Bill Wells

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    let the buyer dictate what color he wants it to become ...maybe he still
    wants a non data plate color, ie re-sale red instead of lime gold . maybe
    lime gold. it is a crap shoot . kinda like selling a house and
    recarpeting before ya list it only to find out the new owner wanted beige
    instead of gray and rips it all out. just be up front about the color
    change and original color code and tell em your price reflects the color
    change. you can get paint jobs from $3k to 10K, who knows what the new buyer
    considers acceptable quality wise . again, let them decide is my vote .
    bill, motown

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    All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    it has looked like this for 20 plus years.

    any thoughts ?

    Thanks Dave #2587

    ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.

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    while I think the color combination you have will pull the value down a bit,
    you have to ask if the condition of the paint will bring it down
    sufficiently to justify the repaint to sell the car.
    I lean toward selling without additional investment, however you need to
    judge that on condition as is.

    bob

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  5. LS

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    Is there ever a good time to buy a 40 yr. old six figure toy that can only be driven when it's dry, sunny or on the race track?

    In the price range these cars are at now, I can't see any logic left in the buying decision....maybe when they were $15k the buyer had a thought process...but that time is long gone.

    Aren't we all certified nutz now? I am...

    LS

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    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Tom Kubler <tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    To: Shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:47:38 PM
    Subject: Re: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to


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    Dave,

    Doubtless you already know, but this is a really, Really bad time of year to sell a big ticket item. While slime-green is more accepted than it has been for a while greens have historicly been on the week end of the market. I'd almost not waste the hastle of painting the car and let the new owner select his own preference, perhaps even offer a "paint allowance" like they do in home sales-- i.e. sell the car for $xxx,xxx and pay up to $yy,yyy to have the car painted where and by whom the new owner selects...

    Dave Day <dday (AT) slac (DOT) stanford.edu> wrote:
    TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
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    All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    it has looked like this for 20 plus years.

    any thoughts ?

    Thanks Dave #2587

    ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.

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    I don't think I would paint it. There are guys out there who know want
    and I would definitely leave it to the buyer. As mentioned below an
    allowance whouldn't be a bad deal.

    Good Luck

    RP


    > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
    > ------------------------------------Is there ever a good time to buy a 40
    > yr. old six figure toy that can only be driven when it's dry, sunny or on
    > the race track?
    >
    > In the price range these cars are at now, I can't see any logic left in
    > the buying decision...maybe when they were $15k the buyer had a thought
    > process...but that time is long gone.
    >
    > Aren't we all certified nutz now? I am...
    >
    > LS
    >
    > www.exhaust.tv
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----
    > From: Tom Kubler <tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    > To: Shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com
    > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:47:38 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to
    >
    >
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    > Dave,
    >
    > Doubtless you already know, but this is a really, Really bad time of year
    > to sell a big ticket item. While slime-green is more accepted than it has
    > been for a while greens have historicly been on the week end of the
    > market. I'd almost not waste the hastle of painting the car and let the
    > new owner select his own preference, perhaps even offer a "paint
    > allowance" like they do in home sales-- i.e. sell the car for $xxx,xxx and
    > pay up to $yy,yyy to have the car painted where and by whom the new owner
    > selects...
    >
    > Dave Day <dday (AT) slac (DOT) stanford.edu> wrote:
    > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
    > ------------------------------------
    > All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    > stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    > fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    > original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    > color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    > they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    > I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    > it has looked like this for 20 plus years.
    >
    > any thoughts ?
    >
    > Thanks Dave #2587
    >
    > ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.
    >
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  7. LS

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    I asked my girlfriend what she thought about buying a $100k car with leaf springs, drum brakes and chrome plated plastic...she laughed and spilled her Cocoa Puffs.

    I asked her dog instead, he nodded and said it was a good idea...so I bought it.

    There's the modern thought process for cars in this price range. Honestly, if the economy, oil prices, durable goods purchases and the stability of the snowboard market in Tanzania had anything to do with the sales of classic cars, I'd be driving a Toyota Yaris or some other hybrid with the name of a ship from Battlestar Gallactica.

    I certainly wouldn't be buying Sports Car Market letter or wondering what color chalk marks should be on the inside of my transmission case.

    The collectible Hyundai classics might be affected, but not Shelby cars and the like.

    Just my take on the luxury goods market...

    LS

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    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Tom Kubler <tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    To: LS <lashdeep (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:08:35 PM
    Subject: Re: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to

    (Tom wipes a tear from the corner of his eye from laughing in agreement)

    LS <lashdeep (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
    Is there ever a good time to buy a 40 yr. old six figure toy that can only be driven when it's dry, sunny or on the race track?

    In the price range these cars are at now, I can't see any logic left in the buying decision...maybe when they were $15k the buyer had a thought process...but that time is long gone.

    Aren't we all certified nutz now? I am...

    LS

    www.exhaust.tv



    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Tom Kubler <tjinsa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
    To: Shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:47:38 PM
    Subject: Re: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to


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    Dave,

    Doubtless you already know, but this is a really, Really bad time of year to sell a big ticket item. While slime-green is more accepted than it has been for a while greens have historicly been on the week end of the market. I'd almost not waste the hastle of painting the car and let the new owner select his own preference, perhaps even offer a "paint allowance" like they do in home sales-- i.e. sell the car for $xxx,xxx and pay up to $yy,yyy to have the car painted where and by whom the new owner selects...

    Dave Day <dday (AT) slac (DOT) stanford.edu> wrote:
    TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
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    All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    it has looked like this for 20 plus years.

    any thoughts ?

    Thanks Dave #2587

    ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.

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  8. STAN SIMM

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    Dave-
    I'm going to add a comment to those who have preceded me, all good ones I
    might add. You've already stated that this sale will not be of your
    choosing, so why add to the mental anguish of it by going through the
    emotional, physical and financial effort of re-painting, only to see it
    finished in all it's original glory? Cut the cord as it is.
    Just rationalize that the lesser amount you'll receive will mean that much
    less capital gains tax you'll have to pay.
    Regards, Stan
    ----- Original Message -----
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    To: <Shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com>
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:22 AM
    Subject: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to


    > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
    > ------------------------------------
    > All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    > stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    > fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    > original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    > color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    > they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    > I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    > it has looked like this for 20 plus years.
    >
    > any thoughts ?
    >
    > Thanks Dave #2587
    >
    > ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.
    >
    > _______________________________________________
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    Dave,

    All I can suggest is that if I were looking at the car (I believe I saw it at
    your dad's home, 4 or 5 years ago), I'd prefer to see it "as is", & at a
    lower price than freshly painted, or with a "paint allowance"/"paint discount from
    *market*" included in the asking price.

    OTOH, if you're thinking about consigning it to any of the "January"
    auctions, then you'd best have it "drive away" (& "ready to show off to/impress the
    buddies with") detailed, prepped, primped, primed, fluffed&buffed & ready to go,
    for all the "instant gratification" bidding crowd, eh? ;>{P

    Best of Luck,
    Dave

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  10. Guest

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    More input......I don't know about how long it takes to get a car painted where you are, especially a different color where jambs are involved. But, by the time you strip the car, do the body work, paint it and reassemble with new gaskets and chrome, you will have added substantial time and money to the sale of the car. The less you ask for the car, the quicker it will sell. Just thinking you wanted to move the car quickly before you sober up. I concur with letting the new owner choose the color and aggrivate with finding someone to do a great job on a collectors investment. SEE Y'ALL Lee
    >
    > From: "STAN SIMM" <SSIMM (AT) triad (DOT) rr.com>
    > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu PM 02:44:07 EDT
    > To: "Dave Day" <dday (AT) slac (DOT) stanford.edu>, <Shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com>
    > Subject: Re: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to
    >
    > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
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    > Dave-
    > I'm going to add a comment to those who have preceded me, all good ones I
    > might add. You've already stated that this sale will not be of your
    > choosing, so why add to the mental anguish of it by going through the
    > emotional, physical and financial effort of re-painting, only to see it
    > finished in all it's original glory? Cut the cord as it is.
    > Just rationalize that the lesser amount you'll receive will mean that much
    > less capital gains tax you'll have to pay.
    > Regards, Stan
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Dave Day" <dday (AT) slac (DOT) stanford.edu>
    > To: <Shelbymustang (AT) thecarsource (DOT) com>
    > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:22 AM
    > Subject: [Shelbymustang] To repaint or not to
    >
    >
    > > TheCarSource.com Shelby Mustang List
    > > ------------------------------------
    > > All, I have a 67 G.T.350 that is painted gunmetal grey with black side
    > > stripes. I have had this car looking this way since 1983. I am on the
    > > fence about selling it due to issues beyond my control. The car is a
    > > original lime-gold car. My question is should I repaint the original
    > > color now or try to market the car as is and let someone else decide if
    > > they want it original or some other color. The paint is getting old and
    > > I would like to try to get it away from looking like a clone even though
    > > it has looked like this for 20 plus years.
    > >
    > > any thoughts ?
    > >
    > > Thanks Dave #2587
    > >
    > > ps. you can see the car on the carmemories web site.
    > >
    > > _______________________________________________
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    > http://thecarsource.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbymustang_thecarsource.com
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  11. Dave Day

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    All, thanks for all the comments about painting or not painting my car.
    Things might have changed so I will not be forced to sell at this time.
    It would have been very hard to see this go since I have had the car
    since I was 19 years old.

    Thanks Dave #2587

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