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Discussion in '1965-1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 & GT500' started by SFM 5025, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. SFM 5025

    SFM 5025 Active Member

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    I saw 6S195 listed on Ebay in case you missed it. Anyone know anything about this car?
     
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    racingdivision Well-Known Member

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    What is with that VERY CHEAP steering wheel? Why would someone sale a car that caliber with a $200 replica wheel? At least buy the correct one from Branda or Cobra Automotive!
     
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    The one from Branda or Cobra Automotive would not be original either. It would look like one until you get up close enough to see that it would be reproduction ... I see that it is a driver quality car and I would not be ashamed to be seen in it... The dual reservoir master cylinder is a upgrade from original also...You might check out the other 66 #2229 he owns also...Its nicer than this one.

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    I would not be ashamed to own the car, not at all. But if I was selling it, and wanted top dollar, I would certainly make sure the wheel was "correct" repro or not. I like you don't think the dual master cylinder is a mod that would kill the deal but again the one item the driver has the most contact with during the interaction with the car is well, the wheel.
     
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    It has a 66 style 5 dial instrument cluster. Should be 65 GT style 5 dial. Some say the left over cars did not have a tail light panel GT350 emblems. Looks like this one got one. It has the right stance...

    Is there a 66 leftover website somewhere? I heard mention of one recently.
     
  6. 67GT500#2100

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    Here is a picture of Doug's carry over 6S188 dash.
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    The e-bay car 6s195, looks wrong to me.
     
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    What about that data tag? Doesn't it look too new? It's perfect: zero patina after 44 years? Looks like it just left the factory! Or is it legit?
     
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    None of the above are correct. The carry over cars came from SA with the 66 deluxe woodgrain Mustang wheel with the Shelby center cap. Remember it was supposed to look like a 66 GT350. Bob
     
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    I was just showing the picture of the instrument panel bezel, not the steering wheel.
     
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    1965 dash bezel on 6S188 is correct with 1965 GT type with "eyebrow" inner trim ring. 1966 standard dash bezel inner ring is concentric all the way around.B)
     
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    Yes, I know my steering wheel in 6S188 is incorrect. It's a 16" Cobra steering
    wheel, that I happen to like the looks of. Been there more than 20 years. Better than the cheap Ford plastic one. Some of us prefer to change our cars to suit ourselves and are not worried about being "perfect".

    Just checked the current Branda catalog for steering wheel prices; and it was rather informative.

    The "incorrect" steering wheel in the Shelby carryover for sale, is listed at:
    $398.95 A tad more than Mr. racingdivision claimed.

    The "correct" reproduction plastic steering wheel lists for: $326.95, plus the
    required Shelby horn center cap at:$84.95, bringing the grand total to:$411.90. Not cheap either.

    For the high rollers, you can obtain the '66 over the counter reproduction
    wooden steering wheel at a bargain: $2750.00. But, it is nice.

    So, there is some choices out there. I'm sure the owner of the carryover
    for sale, selected the currently installed steering wheel because that's what
    he wanted. After all. it is his car.

    The VIN tag looks fine to me. If you look closely, you will see places where the paint was scratched, and a number of spots, where the paint has come off. And, you can see the edging around the tag from where it was masked off during the painting of the engine bay.

    My carryover car does not have the rear GT350 badge. Never did.

    It is generally believed, a large number of the carryover cars left SA without
    the rear badge. My friend's carryover car came with the badge. As to why
    this occurred; your guess is as good as mine. Just another bit of Shelby weirdness.
     
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    shlby66,

    I couldn't agree with you more. No matter what anyone else says, it is still your car. I for one like it.
     
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    Ended with zero bids (starting bid was $100,000). Seems odd. Too nice a car to be ignored at that price. Didn't check the registry to see if there was anything fishy... maybe a sign of the market getting even weaker?

    Josh
     
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    I to think it should have bid up more even with the problems I see. When this thread was started many questions were asked if something was original or not. When others posted their car in this thread and I mentioned something wasn't original the owner got defensive. I was only trying to answer the question as it it pertained to the original intention of the thread as I saw it. correctness. I certainly was not trying to be judgmental on a mild owner modification and I feel bad if I needlessly triggered the defensive mechanism of the owner. Most auction or classic car dealers agree that the more a "Shelby"car is to factory specs the easier it is to sell. Most uninformed buyers want to have bragging rights that "it is all original" even if they don't know what to look for. There were many things that were original on the auction car like VIN tag etc. however there were many things that were not original or were detailed incorrectly or in less then top condition. It has been my observation that the top cars still bring top money to the right people. This car could be in that top category because of rarity and desirability but isn't because of the condition. It seems that those buyers are more inclined to be interested in a car that looks fresh and is done original without owner modifications etc. That is probably why this car didn't get any play in my opinion . Not fresh enough and not correctly detailed. Just my opinion.
     
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    Whoops, didn't know you were on this board! Sorry for any negative pub. I guess this is but yet another example of how pictures just don't substitute for being there in person.

    Best regards,

    Neil
     
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    Relisted and ended at US $106,100.00 with 8 bids. Reserve not met.
    RS
     
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    ;) In reference to the gauge bezels in the two carryover cars discussed here.....It is my understanding (from my research) that the carryover cars were built from San Jose cars in 2 batches. One batch received 65 G.T. gauge bezels, and the other batch received 66 gauge bezels. Maybe someone can add to this. Thanks! Just trying to help. Ken
     
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    At the very end of 1965 production at San Jose, 252 cars were ordered for
    inventory at SA to prepare for the 1966 model. The 252 "carryover" 1965
    cars were ordered with the GT intrrument panel. So, they all recieved the
    1965 GT instrument panel. ( see '97 World Registery, page 427. )
     
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    I agree. 65 GT dash not 66. Bob
     
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    Mustangmann, Can you elaborate on your research and source that says there might have been 2 batches of cars at San Jose that became the carryover cars?
    Jay
     

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