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  1. isaak-gt500kr

    isaak-gt500kr Well-Known Member

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    I hear you Tout. It is very encouraging and I feel a little patience will go a long way. That is why I am going to wait a while and let things settle down. My wife says I have to liquidate a few of my toys first anyway. Well worth it though.
     
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    I just installed a AO Smith fan motor in my home A/C. Can I now say my house is blown by Shelby.
     
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    Superformance GT, soon to hit the streets of the USA!
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    The SPF GT is still going to be a very serious cash investment, 65,000.00 for the roller,10,000.00 transaxle , and then engine cost,plus it's not an easy install. If the cost of the Ford GT comes back to MSRP or below,I know which one I would own.
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    Isaak-gt500oncrack, Do you talk to everybody like this that asks a simple question? In my opinion, I don`t think you know what the hell you`re talking about "Dude". By the way my name is not "Dude", it is Rhonda. I felt that if the car says FORD on the side, then it must be a Ford right? It may be Shelby inspired, but it is still a Ford.
    So what exactly do you know about a GT/CS? I am assuming nothing at all. You don`t have a clue as to how much Shelby had to do with the GT/CS do you? You really should`nt talk about things that you know nothing about. You seem to me to be quite a big mouth and I think you should calm down. You act as though I insulted you when I asked "But is it a Shelby?" It wasn`t anything against you "Dude". It was just a question. Oh yeah, California is spelled with a C not a K. :dance:
     
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    isaak-gt500kr Well-Known Member

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    I am truly sorry Rhonda. My responce was totally uncalled for. I had a bad day yesterday and got in a hurry. I should have known better. I hope you will accept my apology. Also, many of us in CA spell it with a K because we don't agree with the socialist fascist form of state gov we have here. The libs don't like our gas burning muscle cars and our right to bear arms. They are trying to ban both. Have fun with your hobby but be prepared to defend it or you will lose it. Best regards. TI
     
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    Isaak,
    I accept your apology if you are indeed sincere. I understand how a person can have a bad day once in awhile. Sorry I was so harsh, but in this world a person can`t let another force them to suppress their opinions. The way I asked the question "But are they Shelby`s?" was opinionated. I should have realized I would get a rise out of someone with a question like that. I am a senior member of the site www.californiaspecial.com and I have been trying to get a standard set for all Shelby`s and Shelby developed vehicles, as you can tell by my many posts on that site. I feel the GT/CS is the adopted bastard child of the Shelby. Anything Shelby or Shelby inspired after 1967 when they moved the plant, should be considered equal since Shelby did`nt involve himself much after that. Even Shelby purists don`t consider the Shelby`s built after 1967 to be true Shelby`s because of that. I feel since the Shelby GT 350`s and GT500`s are Ford Mustangs and the GT/CS are Ford Mustang (Shelby developed), they should be equal. Did you know that nowhere on the GT/CS is the word Ford? There is a place when you open the door on the runner where it says Ford, but that is the only place and it is not seen by the general public. The GT/CS has the history of being developed by Shelby with the "Green Hornet" and "Little Red" just not the pedigree. Some would say that a Shelby was a performance car and that is why they are considered so rare and desired. Did you know that the GT/CS and the HCS could be ordered with any engine and transmission package? There were 200`s, 289`s, 302`s 390`s and 428`s. They were performance cars too. There were less GT/CS `s produced in 1968 then Shelby`s and 1968 was the only year the GT/CS `s were produced. I guess there will probably never be an answer to all this but I hope someday that the GT/CS, HCS and all other Shelby developed vehicles will be acknowledged. There is talk of the GT/CS and HCS owners being accepted by SAAC as members. That is a step in the right direction. Whats your opinion on this?
     
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    Yes Rhonda, I do agree that both the GT/CS & HCS should be included in the SAAC organization and registry. I knew a young lady many years ago that had GT/CS with the 390gt engine option. It was a very impressive looker and performer. Most people are not aware that these cars had big block options. I did check out your web site and I am very impressed. I can appreciate your hard work and devotion to these fine cars. Keep up the good work. I have been a Shelby enthusiast for more than 35 years and have collected parts, literature and Shelby inspired cars. I have wanted the GT since the late sixties. This new version may be my only shot at it since the originals have escalated well beyond my means. I will probably be putting some of my Shelby stuff up for sale to do this. My wife isn't as enthusiastic as I am at this point. She loves the KR, it has been part of our lives for 18 years. We had to sell our Pantera to buy a house 23 years ago. Also Rhonda, I am a retiring ag spray applicator who is suffering from the ill affects that goes along with this occupation. I am going through a major pesticide detoxification process which at one point almost killed me several months ago. It's been an uphill struggle that seems to be paying off for me now. The doctors have given me orders to find another line of work and so thats where I am headed. Sorry about the outburst. My head does not always function like it should. No excuse for it, just stupidity on my part. Best regards. TI
     
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    TI,
    Thank you for all the kind words. Its was good to hear your comments on the subject. You seem to live and breathe your Shelby`s as I do the GT/CS`s. I figure everyone has to have at least one passion in their life. The Ford GT40 is a beautiful and exciting car. I can understand why you would want one.

    On another note, I have some Shelby center caps a friend gave me and I don`t know what they are off of exactly or for what year. Maybe you can help me. I don`t have a pic yet, but I have the discription in the classifieds on this site. I would like to sell them but I don`t know what they`re worth.

    I`m sorry to hear that you will have to sell some things to get the car you want. It will be all worth it in the end. I wish you all the best and I hope you get your health back 100%. To you and your family, I wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
    :D Rhonda
     
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    for some reason learning that just made me really happy.
     
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    The SPF GT will be low to mid $90's to finish out with a decent motor like a Roush 427, and no, the install will not be that difficult, the SPF Daytona Coupe is way more involved, you can look in my gallery and see that process.
     
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    If you need to know about installs ask Eric @ Performance Engineering,if going with a Roush injected engine package ,this is very complex ,and of the cars he has done the owners tried to do the install but ended up going to him to redo it . to date these were CAV cars , but the SPF isn't that different.
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    I'm an SPF dealer, I know all about installs. :)
     
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    Anyone read the GT book? I have a copy and there is no way the quality of any of those cars is even close. My old man worked for Ford back in the day. Every now and then he would talk about the thousands of hours that went into the front fenders of the 57 bird, etc. Like Shelby said in the beginning of the book, "When a company like Ford turns on the faucet, no one can touch them".
     
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    Commish,
    I take it that you have done an install?
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    SPF Cobras and Coupes yes, both carb'd and EFI, haven't rec'd our first SPF GT yet to see how that'll go, but it should be pretty straight forward.
     
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    As with anything ,each owners mechanical expertice will vary, I would be surprised if the dealers don't do most of the installs and what that cost will be .The point still being this is going to be a very expensive investmemt, with no warranty,Vs the Ford GT.
    As a dealer I know you are here to sell SPF cars, but again I think Superformance has missed it's target by being a year late, as the coupe was too.With the Ford GT that is now being purchased for list prices,and it comes with a warranty, the market has gotten smaller for the replicas.Don't get me wrong, the SPF car is the best thing in it's class, just not sure it's worth 100K.
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    Hey commish, are you a spf dealer?
     
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    Commish,
    I have copied a news release from HiTech on the SPF GT replica,it is a good explanation of what they are selling VS the Ford GT.As a dealer I hope you have this.

    SUPERFORMANCE GT-40 : THE MISSION IS REVEALED





    Port Elizabeth, South Africa, Dec 20, 2005- Mr. James Price, head of Hi-Tech Automotive, the maker of the Superformance GT reveals for the first time the intended mission and purpose for their reproduction of the legendary GT-40.

    "...Addressing some of the concerns regarding the shape of the Spf GT, I feel we need to provide more information regarding just what we are offering with our car and how that relates to the new Ford GT replica's and originals.

    Firstly Ford's new GT is just that, a completely new vehicle competing in the super car league. They only used styling queues from the original and spent many millions of dollars and over 4 years creating it. If one reads the various SAE papers presented, you get an idea of just how much Ford put into it. It is a truly amazing car.

    As far as the current GT40 replica's in the market most use an easy to produce space frame or a much simplified monocoque - All also use their own suspension designs, components, brakes and even a fiberglass roof spider. Close study reveals many departures from original.

    For our version, we chose to do a very, very close to original, replica. We knew this would put us in a unique position because it would require an investment in time, money and skills other manufacturers just did not have.

    Our car would be aimed at those enthusiasts who really would want to own an exact replica of this true icon of road racing history and not something that just bears a passing resemblance to one. (Ford had already just done that better than anyone).

    We spent much time and money collecting parts, drawings, details and anything else that would get us to where we now are, which is :-

    1. Our chassis is a true copy of the original monocoque with over 260 sheet metal parts. It has a pressed steel roof and A and B posts, and, as the original, it runs over 12,000 lb's per degree of torsional stiffness.

    2. We offer both MK1 and MK11 body styles. The Carlisle car, Essen Motor Show car and Olthoff's own car, now being tested, are MK11 A body styles. The MK11 was the totally American designed vehicle with the 427 FE motor. Mk1's were U.K. built and ran small blocks.

    3. Just about all of the componentry is very true to original including all the suspension parts. Brakes are the latest Willwood offering.

    4. Further details are the replica "Hartswell helicopter latches" on the front and rear clams, door catches and even (MK11) the aircraft style engine oil cooler as well as the correct stop lights on both cars.

    5. Wheels are BRM 15" style for MK1 and Halibrand GT40 style for the MK11 again, as per original

    The closest to accuracy, compared to our car is Lee Holman of Holman - Moody's $500,000-00 MK11. Ours is currently $68,000-00 plus engine and transmission.

    I suggest that anyone with a sincere interest in the GT40 should get some of the books below. They give one an understanding or what was actually achieved by this incredible car, as well as a lot of the design details.

    "Ford GT" by Trevor Legate (ISBN 1-903-706-11-4)
    "GT 40" by Ronnie Spain (ISBN 1-8553-258-4)
    "Shelby GT 40" by Dave Friedman (ISBN 0-7603-0013-5)
    "GT 40" by John Allen (ISBN 1-85537-524-1)
    "GT40 Profile" by John Allen (ISBN 0-85429-332-9)
    "Ford GT" by Dave Hodges (ISBN 1-899870-25-3)
    "Ford GT 40" by Winer & Wyss (ISBN 1-882256-64-6)

    As a matter of further interest, Dennis's car, out of the box, and fitted with a 402 Roush + RBT trans, running on Avid St's, gave our factory Noble M400 a run for it's money at our tight local track last week.

    Dennis Olthoff, who as you know does not offer praise lightly, was extremely happy and excited. In his own works "Awesome - the best car yet from Hi-Tech"

    Once again, we did not want to design and build a better or different GT40 just a genuine replica..."




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    Hey Commissioner, yes I would be interested in taking a look at your SPF40. I did drive one of their Cobras in Reno a couple of years ago. I was very impressed with the engineering and workmanship. They do build a fine product. Keep me posted on the progress. Thanks again. Tony
     

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