RE: 65-350 Stripe

i just checked my branda catalogue from several years ago , and they claim
the stripe dimensions in their catologue were direct from shelby american in
1965, as designed by peter brock. . stripes were intended to be tapered,
being wider in the middle than at the front or rear...if not tapered then
the stripes appear to get smaller the further back on the car they go. when
tapered they visually appear to be the same.

for what its worth, acknowledging that many dealers probably did their own
thing and variability existed, the branda reported measurements are :

* a constant 2" between the stripes from front to rear.
* the stripes are 9-1/4" at the bottom of the lower front valance which is
the same dimension as the front of the hood over the grille
* stripes measure 9-1/4" at the front of the hood and taper out to 10-1/2"
at the cowl below the windshield as well as 10-1/2" at the roof at the
windshield * the top stripes start at 10-1/2 " at the front and taper
slightly to 10-3/8" at the back of the roof at the rear window moulding
edge.
* the stripes on the trunk are 10-1/8" wide at the rear window moulding
tapering to 10" at the rear of the trunk and 10" down behind the rear bumper
to the bottom of the rear valance which is also 10"

now, when you are picking fly droppings out of pepper, like these
measurements that vary an 1/8" or so, one can imagine the variablity of the
dealers / painters who masked them out for painting. without a template it
would be hard to imagine out of 10 cars how many were the same exact
measurements when done.

I dont make this up, i just report the news, as branda printed. LOL...bill ,
motown , flyswatter with measurement calipers

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wells [mailto:wwells249101MI@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:54 AM
To: speegle@pipeline.com; jonlee@wt.net; Shelby List
Subject: RE: 65-350 Stripe


i dont have a tony branda catalogue handy, will look later, but i know my
most current is a couple of years out of date. however, in the last couple i
saw they had paint codes for some of the stripe colors ( hertz gold anyway)
and showed the correct dimensions for the stripes as they moved from front
to rear. and they DID DIFFER dimensionally as they extended from front to
back. the stripes were NOT uniform in width , instead varied for an optical
affect of visual uniformity . bill, motown

-----Original Message-----
From: speegle@pipeline.com [mailto:speegle@pipeline.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:55 AM
To: jonlee@wt.net; Shelby List
Subject: Re: 65-350 Stripe


Not sure how much differenence ther is between the hood and cowl stripes but
try this.

The original instructions Shelby used and supplied to dealers called for
trappered stripes (thinner at the front and rear of the car) to reduce the
coke bottle effect that consistant thickness stripes would visually cause.

Since prep was just enough we would expect to see paint overspray into the
cowl sections. If they were dealer and even Shelby done, there would be
overspray in a number of other areas. Of course these cars are often over
restored. ... remember a R model that had stripes applied inside the cowl
then they reinstalled the cowl.


Hope this helps

Jeff S

-----Original Message-----
From: jonlee@wt.net
Sent: Nov 16, 2005 9:40 PM
To: Shelby List <shelbymustang@carmemories.com>
Subject: 65-350 Stripe

Hey Alpha Omega Shelby guys:

I have a question. I just looked over my 65-350 car to help a friend out on
his 65 350 car purchase and I discovered something I think is unusual on my
car.
The Le Mans stripes dont exactly line up and the car was ordered with
factory Le Mans stripes. It seems that the stripes on the fiberglass hood
are narrower then the stripes on the cowl vent area
and on the top.
Basically, the top and cowl stripes are wider than the stipes on the hood.
Is this correct or did someone mess around with it. There is about a 2 inch
gap between the stripes thats even through out
the car but the width of the skunk stripes are not the same.

Whats also interesting is that the cowl vent didn't get covered up when they
painted the stripes. I can see blue paint inside the cowl vent area.

Thanks for any info.


jon

The stripe dimensions are also in the back of the latest SAAC Registry.

Dave

wwells249101MI@comcast.net wrote:

>i just checked my branda catalogue from several years ago , and they claim
>the stripe dimensions in their catologue were direct from shelby american in
>1965, as designed by peter brock. . stripes were intended to be tapered,
>being wider in the middle than at the front or rear...if not tapered then
>the stripes appear to get smaller the further back on the car they go. when
>tapered they visually appear to be the same.
>
>for what its worth, acknowledging that many dealers probably did their own
>thing and variability existed, the branda reported measurements are :
>
>* a constant 2" between the stripes from front to rear.
>* the stripes are 9-1/4" at the bottom of the lower front valance which is
>the same dimension as the front of the hood over the grille
>* stripes measure 9-1/4" at the front of the hood and taper out to 10-1/2"
>at the cowl below the windshield as well as 10-1/2" at the roof at the
>windshield * the top stripes start at 10-1/2 " at the front and taper
>slightly to 10-3/8" at the back of the roof at the rear window moulding
>edge.
>* the stripes on the trunk are 10-1/8" wide at the rear window moulding
>tapering to 10" at the rear of the trunk and 10" down behind the rear bumper
>to the bottom of the rear valance which is also 10"
>
>now, when you are picking fly droppings out of pepper, like these
>measurements that vary an 1/8" or so, one can imagine the variablity of the
>dealers / painters who masked them out for painting. without a template it
>would be hard to imagine out of 10 cars how many were the same exact
>measurements when done.
>
>I dont make this up, i just report the news, as branda printed. LOL...bill ,
>motown , flyswatter with measurement calipers
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Wells [mailto:wwells249101MI@comcast.net]
>Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:54 AM
>To: speegle@pipeline.com; jonlee@wt.net; Shelby List
>Subject: RE: 65-350 Stripe
>
>
>i dont have a tony branda catalogue handy, will look later, but i know my
>most current is a couple of years out of date. however, in the last couple i
>saw they had paint codes for some of the stripe colors ( hertz gold anyway)
>and showed the correct dimensions for the stripes as they moved from front
>to rear. and they DID DIFFER dimensionally as they extended from front to
>back. the stripes were NOT uniform in width , instead varied for an optical
>affect of visual uniformity . bill, motown
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: speegle@pipeline.com [mailto:speegle@pipeline.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:55 AM
>To: jonlee@wt.net; Shelby List
>Subject: Re: 65-350 Stripe
>
>
>Not sure how much differenence ther is between the hood and cowl stripes but
>try this.
>
>The original instructions Shelby used and supplied to dealers called for
>trappered stripes (thinner at the front and rear of the car) to reduce the
>coke bottle effect that consistant thickness stripes would visually cause.
>
>Since prep was just enough we would expect to see paint overspray into the
>cowl sections. If they were dealer and even Shelby done, there would be
>overspray in a number of other areas. Of course these cars are often over
>restored. ... remember a R model that had stripes applied inside the cowl
>then they reinstalled the cowl.
>
>
>Hope this helps
>
>Jeff S
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonlee@wt.net
>Sent: Nov 16, 2005 9:40 PM
>To: Shelby List <shelbymustang@carmemories.com>
>Subject: 65-350 Stripe
>
>Hey Alpha Omega Shelby guys:
>
>I have a question. I just looked over my 65-350 car to help a friend out on
>his 65 350 car purchase and I discovered something I think is unusual on my
>car.
>The Le Mans stripes dont exactly line up and the car was ordered with
>factory Le Mans stripes. It seems that the stripes on the fiberglass hood
>are narrower then the stripes on the cowl vent area
>and on the top.
>Basically, the top and cowl stripes are wider than the stipes on the hood.
>Is this correct or did someone mess around with it. There is about a 2 inch
>gap between the stripes thats even through out
>the car but the width of the skunk stripes are not the same.
>
>Whats also interesting is that the cowl vent didn't get covered up when they
>painted the stripes. I can see blue paint inside the cowl vent area.
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>
>jon
>
>
>
>
>
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>