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Old January 9th, 2007, 03:50 PM
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csx2166 just sold

In a german magazine it says a F1 drive rjust bought
CSX2166 the car that some feel is
the '64 big block leaf spring prototype
But others feel CSX2196 is the prototype so
CSX2166 is just a regular 289 roadster that somewhre along the way was
made into a Daytona coupe but don't get your hopes up,it's not
any lost Daytona, a more recent rebody
My question is: what was the sn of the blue roadster
with three 250GTOair intakes that Miles crashed at Sebring in '64? If this was the car sold in Switzerland it would be a very rare car but
I don't think it was.

I also wonder if this race driver, who made more than a million a week
during his peak years, bought it while under the impression that underneath its coupe
body it is the big block roadster prototype or if he just bought it because he wanted a Daytona and wanted it to be a real Cobra chassis. I coudln't find a price in the story but figure it had to be between $300,000 and $500,000.
I would reprint the story but it's German and when I translate on Babelfish it makes a big mess out of it that Germans will say is not close to real German.But anyone can find the news story by tying into search engine like Yahoo Germany
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Re: csx2166 just sold

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Originally Posted by bitzman
My question is: what was the sn of the blue roadster
with three 250GTOair intakes that Miles crashed at Sebring in '64?
I took this from the Upper Midwest Regional Chapter
Shelby American Automobile Club web page.



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Later in March 1964, Shelby-American entered a 427-engine leaf-spring
Cobra, CSX 2166, at Sebring in the prototype class. Ken Miles spun off the course in practice and hit
the one tree in sight, but the 427 test mule was repaired for the race the next day.

The blue car is apicture of a Daytona Coupe is claimed to be CSX2166 also.
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Re: csx2166 just sold

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My question is: what was the sn of the blue roadster
with three 250GTOair intakes that Miles crashed at Sebring in '64?
the '97 registry says it was 2196
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Re: csx2166 just sold

I think we went through this a few months ago.

Ken Miles prototype 390 Cobra--GTO nostrils
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1964

Position Drivers No. Car Car ID Owner
-------- ---------------------------- --- --------------- --------- -----

Daytona 2000 Km. - Feb. 1964
4 GT D.Gurney/B.Johnson 16 Cobra Roadster CSX2259 CS
6 GT B.Rainvile/Butler 10 Cobra Roadster CSX2156 Cust.
8 GT T.Hitchcock/Tchkotoua 18 Cobra Roadster CSX2155 CS
DNF D.MacDonald/B.Holbert 14 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS
DNF J.Schlesser/J.Guichet 15 Cobra Roadster CSX2260 CS
DNF J.Stevens/Noseda 20 Cobra Roadster CSX2137 Cust.
DNF G.Shaw/C.Hayes/E.Rahal 24 Cobra Roadster CSX2129 Cust.
DNF J.Everly/Allen 11 Cobra Roadster CSX2011 Cust.

Sebring 12-Hour - Mar. 1964
1 GT D.MacDonald/B.Holbert 10 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS
2 GT B.Bondurant/L.Spencer 12 Cobra Roadster CSX2301 CS
3 GT J.Schlesser/P.Hill 14 Cobra Roadster CSX2260 CS
5 GT S.Scott/H.Keck 80 Cobra Roadster CSX2127 Cust.
6 GT D.Gurney/B.Johnson 11 Cobra Roadster CSX2259 CS
7 GT T.Hitchcock/Tchkotoua 15 Cobra Roadster CSX2155 Cust.
12 GT E.Lowther/Wintersteen 18 Cobra Roadster CSX2153 Cust.
DNF J.Stevens/Noseda 16 Cobra Roadster CSX2137 Cust.
DNF Reed/D.Gerber/Lang 19 Cobra Roadster CSX2138 Cust.
DNF G.Shaw/DeWayne 24 Cobra Roadster CSX2129 Cust.
DNF K.Miles/J.Morton 1 Cobra 427 CSX2166 CS

Targa Florio - Apr. 1964
2 GT D.Gurney/J.Grant 146 Cobra Roadster CSX2323 CS
DNF P.Hill/B.Bondurant 142 Cobra Roadster CSX2345 CS
DNF I.Ireland/M.Gregory 148 Cobra Roadster CSX2260 CS
DNF V.Arena/V.Coco 150 Cobra Roadster CSX2301 CS
DNF T.Hitchcock/Tchkotoua 152 Cobra Roadster CSX2155 Cust.

Spa 500 Km. - May 1964
6 GT B.Bondurant 3 Cobra Roadster CSX2345 CS
8 GT J.Schlesser 4 Cobra Roadster CSX2301 CS
11 GT I.Ireland 2 Cobra Roadster CSX2323 CS
12 GT P.Hill 1 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS
DNF P.Hawkins/B.Olthoff ? Cobra Roadster CSX2130 FofF

Nurburgring 1000 Km. - May 1964
6 GT J.Schlesser/D.Attwood 99 Cobra Roadster CSX2301 CS
DNF B.Bondurant/J.Neerpasch 101 Cobra Roadster CSX2345 CS
DNF P.Hawkins/B.Olthoff 96 Cobra Roadster CSX2130 FofE
DNF T.Hitchcock/G.Thiel 95 Cobra Roadster CSX2155 Cust.
DNS V.Arena/? 100 Cobra Roadster CSX2323 CS
DNS J.Sears/F.Gardner ? Cobra Roadster CS-2131 FofE

La Mans 24-Hour - June 1964
1 GT D.Gurney/B.Bondurant 5 Cobra Daytona CSX2299 CS
5 GT Fraissinet/de Mortemart 65 Cobra Roadster COX6010 Cust.
DNF C.Amon/J.Neerpasch 6 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS
DNF J.Sears/P.Bolton 3 AC Coupe A98 AC

Reims 12-Hour - July 1964
DNF D.Gurney/B.Bondurant 15 Cobra Daytona CSX2299 CS
DNF J.Neerpasch/I.Ireland 14 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS

Freiburg Hillclimb - Aug. 1964
1 GT B.Bondurant 176 Cobra Roadster CSX2345 CS
3 GT J.Neerpasch 144 Cobra Roadster CSX2301 CS
4 GT J.Siffert 67 Cobra Roadster CSX2260 CS

Oulton Park 500 Km. - Aug. 1964
1 GT D.Gurney 21 Cobra Daytona CSX2299 CS
2 GT J.Sears 23 Cobra Roadster CS-2131 FofE
3 GT B.Olthoff ? Cobra Roadster CSX2130 FofE
11 GT P.Hill 22 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS
DNF R.Salvadori 25 AC Roadster HEM-6 Cust.

Sierra Montana Hillclimb - Aug. 1964
1 GT B.Bondurant 176 Cobra Roadster CSX2345 CS
2 GT J.Schlesser 177 Cobra Roadster CSX2260 CS
3 GT J.Neerpasch 175 Cobra Roadster CSX2301 CS

Monza 1000 Km. - Sep. 1964
----- Race Cancelled by Organizers -- --- --- --

Tour de France - Sep. 1964
DNF B.Bondurant/J.Neerpasch 187 Cobra Daytona CSX2300 CS
DNF M.Trintignant/B.de St.Aubon 188 Cobra Daytona CSX2299 CS
DNF A.Simon/M.Aupeyron 186 Cobra Daytona CSX2287 CS
DNF Vincent/Faget 189 Cobra Roadster CSX2___ Cust.
DNS G.Ligier/H.Monough 186 Cobra Daytona CSX2300 CS

Bridgehampton 500 Km. - Sep. 1964
1 GT K.Miles 98 Cobra Roadster CSX2431 CS
2 GT R.Bucknum 97 Cobra Roadster CSX2494 CS
3 GT B.Johnson 96 Cobra Roadster CSX2513 CS
4 GT C.Parsons 80 Cobra Roadster CSX2290 Cust.
5 GT A.Huttinger 65 Cobra Roadster CSX2128 Cust.
6 GT J.Freitas/J.Morton 94 Cobra Roadster CSX2558 CS
DNF C.Hayes 95 Cobra Roadster CSX2557 CS
DNF E.Leslie 99 Cobra Roadster CSX2488 CS
DNF H.Keck 62 Cobra Roadster CSX2127 Cust.
DNF L.Florence 66 Cobra Roadster CSX2459 Cust.

1964 FIA World GT Championship - Ferrari 1st -- Cobra 2nd
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Re: csx2166 just sold

the 390 prototype car is not the same as the the GTO nostrils car, the 390 was called the turd and had a aluminum boby and engine. the GTO nostrils car was the first " real 427 race car "
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Miles driving car

I bought a color picture of Miles driving the car but am puzzled because I read that he crashed it in practice and spent all night rebuilding it and then
turned it over to John Morton tor race but I guess it's possible that Miles took it out to see if his repairs worked the morning of the race before going off to a well needed rest. The car is pretty wrinkled on the right side so it makes me think this was post-crash.
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