Coralsnake
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1 point for consistency. -1 for comprehension. Its a wash!

I dont think they were a Shelby project. There were two cars. They never "disappeared" Both are around today

Am I correct you have a poster of two bronze scultptures?

The biggest lie in the book is....its a one off prototype. Heard it a hundred times before. The rule is simple extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I suspect the owner has absolutely no evidence of his story, so it remains just that.....an unsubstaintiated story.

Just to be clear "5" is not the paint code. http://www.thecoralsnake.com/1969paint

I think you will find SAAC has things no other Registry can offer, like history documents and the nost knowledgeable members.

You should also consider contacting the 65 Registar. MNy of the 65 cars have good established histories. There just arent many around.

Its here on Wolfgangs site: http://www.ponysite.de/news_36.htm The car is still around from what I have heard

There were 317,411 1968s built. I think only six had space savers, none were Shelbys

Considering they didnt use space savers on 1968s, I would say not very likely. There were only a handful used on all 1968s. Most of those were dealer promo cars. Space savers were a 69 and later thing. Then most were on 14 inch rims

Original 1968 alternators were "autolite" brand. The Motorcrafts and alternators with numbers on the top edge are later.

I dont think we should make this personal. As I said before, its your car and you can make your own choices. Do a search for John Ondish and/or Demon on Wheels. This guy and his surrogates came online trying to pass off a 390 Mustang as a GT500 KR. He convinced several people that had very little knowledge about such things his car was "real". They invested time and money in his project to make a movie about his car and his experiences. It was pure fabrication. He had a fake Shelby tag with a number he randomly picked out of the Shelby Registry. He also had fake paperwork. He fooled many popular publications. Tell me that doesn't hurt the hobby? It's well documented on the forums. As time progressed, his story changed dramatically. So if you wonder why some people have soured on clones, its people like this that give them a bad reputation....embarassing the less knowledgeable and literally taking money from them for personal gain. Someday, you may need someone that can tell the difference between the clones, tributes and authentic cars. http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=13810.0 http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=17368.0

its not personal, we just disagree.... Let me try one more time. You probably have a twenty dollar bill. It's legally your twenty dollars. It has "your" serial numbers. Can you choose to make photocopies of it? Sure, you can. Is it your "artistic choice" ? Maybe. The words printed on the paper have no real meaning, right?... they are just words that represent an ideal. Does that make it right? Ethically or legally?

Its not a big deal. You asked for opinions. You opened the can of worms. Sounds to me like you are the one defending your choices. Hopefully, it wont ever come down to you defending your choices in court. I have seen that happen too. If the words have no legal meaning, then I guess all Shelbys are just Mustangs and should be valued the same? Your arguement has no credibility.

Unlike an emblem or stripe, a VIN tag is a legal representation. I hope it was " Carroll " Shelby that signed your dash. :laf: There is yet another example of what we are discussing. He signed so many items his signature is virtually worthless.

Hey, its your car. You can do what you like. I draw the line when someone adds an identification tag to the vehicle. That is misrepresentation in my opinion. You will respond you dont intend to misrepresent your clone. I cant tell you how many times I have spoken to people looking for original cars and are considering clones/tributes etc. It might not be your intention to misrepresent the car, but thats often what it turns into. Leave the original style tag off, just my opinion. If it wasnt made by Shelby, it shouldnt say "made by Shelby" on an identification tag. Part of the value of real Shelbys is their limited production. If everyone had one, they would be like Corvettes. That could explain why owners want to keep them exclusive. Clones and tributes passed off as originals devalue the originals in many enthusiasts opinion. If there is another explanation for using the tag, I am open to hear it? One really good example of this is the historically significant example of the Green Hornet. It was restored with a Shelby tag, even though it never had one originally. Now there is a big mess of confusion surrounding the car and its pedigree.

Why do you need a Shelby Vin plate?

One more time for the slow kids.....:D It was an engineering car. Not a prototype. It was not at Ford. It was assigned to Shelby Engineering. What makes you think it was disguised? There are many cases of engineering cars having their non stock parts removed and sold as used vehicles. That small detail might explain why it survives.

The value may be different then what you get if you sell it. You will beseiged by offers now. The other part of that equation is someone has to be willing to step up and shell out the cash. If you have to sell it now, the value will be less. If you are willing to wait and take endless calls from tire kickers and fifteen year old kids, you may hold out for more. I would put the value in the 75-80,000 range. If you need to sell it now, considerably less. The best thing you could do is get it running with the original parts. That will help the value. You need a complete inspection to establish the best number.

A prototype is built before production starts. The car was an engineering car. It was at SAAC 34. I would say a Shelby weighs less than a Boss 302, since a large number of the panels are fiberglass. http://www.thecoralsnake.com/SAAC34